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c) Rugs (hand woven variety, not hair related)
d) They are threatening the nuclear armed, love child of the US
e) Cannot take NK rulers seriously with their love of American movies.
The only way I see the US can get itself into war is if they can gather allies, and switch their economy into total war mode (which will require a massive conflict of the scale of fighting China as it is now)
The US is probably only one Republican White House away from full blown war with Iran. I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened under Obama.
And doing anything against North Korea = more than likely fire zee missiles gg nuclear winter.
20% of the world population wont fade into insignificance. Historically China has always been the world superpower.Just wait a couple of years until 3D printing becomes commonplace, China will return to insignificance when we can make our own cheap pieces of plastic crap at home.
Iran however is prime real estate for invasion. Why do you think the US has kept themselves involved in Afghanistan and Iraq so much?
Aside from the usual considerations around public support/capacity to wage war on 3 fronts, the overriding reason the US would invade Iran (according to the author) was of course oil, but with a twist.
Essentially he argued that an invasion would help stave off a potential US economic collapse. Basically the invasion would require blocking the Straight of Hormuz which would have a detrimental effect on oil supply & spike prices. Given that oil is still exclusively traded in USD (aside from the breakaway Euro only based oil trade Venezuela & Iran are trying to get going which is another thorn in the US side) this increased revenue would help keep them afloat a while longer, whilst allowing them to secure the biggest deposits in the region outside of Saudi Arabia (who are already US friendly via the proven terrorist House of Saud).
Suffice to say it was an interesting analysis.
Not quite, China doesn't want to be responsible for NK but at the same time they don't want the US to host a party on their doorstep - basically NK is China's party to host, it's a party the US will be invited to, but China must be the instigator of any proactive action in the area. In terms of reactive, if NK hits SK without China's expressed and sanctioned blessing (which won't happen) China will invade and take NK out before the world has a chance to react.NK is China's responsibility so US won't get involved until China do.
The real problem with North Korea is that once the dust settles (not including any radioactive fallout), there will be anywhere between 20-25 million people who are effectively refugees - nobody really wants to deal with that.
In terms of Iran, well shit - I always thought that taking out Sadams regime wasn't clever because it removed a hostile but stable country from their back - like two dogs fighting in the street only to have the local RSPCA officer put one down, the dog left alive is running around barking at everyone, in particular the nuclear armed cat which the RSPCA officer takes care of which we'll just call "Snowball of Irony".
Yeah, insignificance was definitely the wrong word. I'm just pumped about 3D printing, it's going to have a massive impact around the world and China will be the one place to experience a negative side. How will they respond to the collapse of the low end manufacturing market?20% of the world population wont fade into insignificance. Historically China has always been the world superpower.Just wait a couple of years until 3D printing becomes commonplace, China will return to insignificance when we can make our own cheap pieces of plastic crap at home.
+1I'm just pumped about 3D printing, it's going to have a massive impact around the world
Theres apparently a mod for minecraft that allows whatever you've made to be printed out... time to get working on that minecraft hof replica
perhaps theres another mod to translate models into minecraft blocks... huh would you look at that
as for topic, i hope some fireworks happen soon, i havent had my irl violence fix in awhile
NK is for China as Iran is for Russia. Both rogue states lie on their respective ally’s border, and all share the same sentiment towards the westerners. Having said that, it will take an extraordinary turn of events to turn this war of the pawns into an all-out war between super powers, if history is anything to go by. There were more testing phases (Cuban missile crisis, Vietnam War) that were handled relatively peacefully by more aggressive regimes (Nixon, Khrushchev). So, it’s hard to think of a scenario where Russia and china will physically defend their allies, given the relative lack of ‘nuttiness’ of their leaders. Therefore, their opposition to the US and co will be only on the talk table.
Also, Bongo, Japan started off like china, mass producing rubbish quality cars and stuff, but look at them now. by the time the 3D printers take over, the Chinese would have found their place in the high end market