bittah.com!~ Transformers - Canceraids in my eye - Page 4
Tribes 1, Tribes 2 and Midair gaming hub for the Australia and New Zealand communities.
We don't mention vengeance or ascend.
Moderator: Super Moderators
- Recent Topics
- MIDAIR STILL GOING
- [Hardware] Playstation VR
- Bittah all time greatest moments
- CBs T2 demo conversion project
- happy 2019
If you see black and white, who is white? If you say Optimus and the Autobots, you're wrong. If you say Cade, you're wrong.
Bay-isms were plenty present in the first half of the film. Plenty of his dick on camera there. A lot of the imagery in the first half of this movie was super-fucking-Bay, from the corn fields, the sunsets, "everyman" Cade Yeager. You can trace this imagery and cinematographic composition all the way back to Affleck's final love scene with Tyler in Armageddon, where he's got the biscuit and he's slipping it into her clunge, or shit, even Bad Boys with the sun, the car, and the lamp posts substituting trees / signs. Tons of the camera movement was very Bay-ish, especially his use of three different directions of movement. Camera moves one way, actor moves another, something in the background moves a third way. He does this, and he's so good at it, and it makes his films feel enormous.
So not sure why you think they hired a different director for the second half, which just takes it up a notch. But all of his same hallmarks are there, from the opening shot to the closing one.
Yeah, pretty much as Bay as it gets. His dick is all over this shot.
Optimus and the autobots
So even, on a character-level, it's still Bay as fuck.
I cant' be bothered to go through it all again, but in TF3 you've got a pretty clear "morally grey" act from the Autobots when they fake their own deaths and let Chicago be invaded to prove a point. It's passive aggressive and real bitchy, and ends up in the off-screen deaths of, according to TF4, at least thousands.
In TF2 you've got Optimus literally slicing the face in half of a refugee, or POW. The decepticon he executes is in hiding, and poses no threat when he's killed. Why not simply arrest him and take him in? What if humans did what Optimus did?
You've also got fantastic imagery (is it TF2 or TF3, I can't remember) of the Autobots rolling out into some middle eastern village and blowing it to shit. Fuck those Ay-rabs. Of course, we're not told or shown why. We just accept it. We don't even question it. I mean, some of them might have guns. But so do tons of people in the States! Even automatic assault rifles like the semi-auto M16 (AKA AR15) are common household weapons in Texas, for example!
Then you've got the fact that Optimus outright lies to Sam (and the audience by proxy) when he recounts his his history of Cybertron and what forced him off. His story changes from movie to movie. Thanks buddy, for telling me a bunch of bullshit last time, but don't worry, you're still my hero! Oh, and let's not forget that he changes his story to the benefit of his (apparent) goals.
The oppositional reading that Optimus is, at best, an anti-hero is popular for a reason. You'll find a fair few film critics, if you care what they say, agreeing with it.
I'm not just spewing bullshit here. When viewed critically, in and of itself, Transformers is quite ambiguous to say the least. I mean, Optimus bursts onto the screen in TF4: Marky Mark in Hong Kong saying "I'll kill you!". He spends the rest of the film acting out vengeful desires. Like, even Batman doesn't do that, and he's fucking batshit guffaw.
I mean, at minimum, there is enough evidence supporting the oppositional reading (Optimus isn't good) as the preferred reading (Optimus is good). That's unusual.
Fairly novelty seeing hk in the movie as that's where I was going, glad they at least kept it smoggy.
Thought the transformers themselves were easier to identify this time round. Slightly more focus on them. Still have no idea who the green guy with the long cloak was though. I wish they'd just drop the bumblebee cabt talk bs though. He'll just drop bumblebee.
The dinobots were completely pointless. Also loved how often they got toppled or whatnot and didn't transform to evade etc. Then again their cartoon counterparts often didn't either. There was a scene in I think the first movie where starscream transformed from jet to Robot to evade midair then back also which was awesome but you rarely see that. I guess that's about the most demanding type of animation.
Overall didn't hate it but also didn't like it. Was what I expected, aka a letdown for anyone who loved transformers when they were younger.
The problem with these movies is they simply don't get the heart and soul of what made these chars so fun and playful. I reckon I could write a better transformers movie than bay
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y98ZK_ ... e=youtu.be[/youtube]