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Post » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:14 pm

T2 epic finales - YouTube

Been converting a few old demos to youtube (for posterity? to watch on the train to/from work when I'm bored? Not sure exactly why...)

Anyway, I've always said my fav T2 match of all time was the iM vs /X/ battle for #1 on Oceanic TWL.
I found a few demos of that match on nastyhobbits site and have gone through and relived the debacle that was Death Birds Fly.

There wasn't much action happening for a long time on map 1 but somehow iM managed to get a first cap. It was looking good for them until the last few minutes saw /X/ get the leveller and push the game into OT, then another, then another... Each OT saw iM get a few decent chances at a cap but /X/ always denying them.

Then came OT #5 - it was past midnight by this stage, and there were still two more maps that were played after this (the 2nd map also going to OT).
Anyway, DOXs demo really gave a very good perspective on the final winning cap of Death Birds Fly... this map wasn't about your cappers routes, it was about how well you can clear, escort & chase as a team... and there are so many close calls I can only believe what it must've been like when that cap was made... I know it felt pretty tough being on the other side!

Chase/Escort coverage starts about 1.15... I'm not sure what DOX decided to do after he died... wanted to check out the view on the other side of the map maybe?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xUy7Zy ... e=youtu.be[/youtube]

Also a request... here are the two teams - if anyone can get hold of any other demos from that game (either that map or the other two) I'd appreciate it :)

Imperial Menace Team:
Meathax
VeNoM
NeMeSis
DarkOne
GOblin
Coz4
craby
Colonel Blair
Reload
StormWolf
Adepta
Ba3L
M0j0MaN
Buffy
WiGGy
Asymptote
Sullz0r
Syntax
arabis (DNP? Obs only?)

/X/ Team:
krazhorse
moistyman
Paradox
Reno-Raines
Bloody
I||uminator
FLinT
Sentinel
Shazza
DOX
Riskybob
/X/
KraKen
aar0n
Ra|L
Fisty
rerun
Nightman!
Idiotchild
Placebo (DNP? Obs only?)

Comp was 16 v 16, there's a few extra players listed as the teams rotated a few players between overtimes.

I'd like to compile a highlights package of the entire game if I can find enough demos. It's a long shot to hope to find demos from that long ago (I don't even have my own) but I'd like anything that can be found.
I've also found ZERO recordings on the other two maps, so SOMETHING is hopefully out there for those two maps.
I've been playing around with LouCyphers democam script to get other POVs which is good, but I'm not sure how useful it will be in its current state, maybe I'm not using it quite right.
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Post » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:02 pm

Didn't play much t2...but have a go at all that /x/ fgt spam going on.....surprised the shit out of me as iM reads like a teamlist of iD in t1....who were less than sportsmanlike lolz.... (soz gob, but your boys were whack back then...but you know this man! 8-)) i would've figured it'd be the other way around......i guess that zX bullshit legit got to some pplz heads.... :laugh:
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Post » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:52 pm

i liked iM buffy would spam emotes with me for no god damm reason on flag stand

from that team list mojoman carried iM and bloody carried /x/

fisty busy trying to throw the game while aaron has 'almost lined up his backcap', dox is o-sniping oob and venom is mortar spaming his own teams v-pad
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:51 am

from that team list mojoman carried iM and bloody carried /x/
What?
In a 16 v 16 game of base T2 one player isn't carrying anyone. And you've got some of the best T2 players ever in the AU/NZ scene in those lineups.
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:00 am

No carries in base, that's one of the things that made pre-cowboy T2 so satisfying for so many, and probably the same reason it turned many others away.

Whole lotta depth in them lineups. Case in point, the possibly least-heard-of player in the /X/ side: rerun. An FPS machine in every goddamn LAN we ever had and THE player to beat at CS, Team Fortress Classic etc. Also the guy who truly defined what it meant to pirate when they introduced ye olde LBP ADSL trial.
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:52 am

daoc killed iM
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:07 pm

You're awesome Blair.

I'm pretty sure there was a lot of screaming in the mikes at this point. But I totally don't remember nowadays.
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:55 pm

Cheers mate - I feel like I've come full circle now as not long after that match /X/ dropped to the bottom of the ladder so they could challenge all the teams one by one on their way back to the top... and I joined up to snaggs to give them shit for 'running scared' which resulted in quite a mammoth thread of angst from both sides :D I just wanted a rematch, sadly it never occurred.

I may be mistaken but I don't remember iM using voice comms at all...
Speaking of snaggs... in my search for demos on the match I found a column on snaggs by Idiotchild detailing the match..
For this weeks update I'm posting a more in depth look at our recent match vs iM. Enjoy.

Pre-game.
Games scheduled to start at 10:30pm NZ time, so of course no-one shows till 10:40 at the earliest. As the iM players begin to fill the server, one of the admins changes it to Rabbit, in order to let everyone have a little pre-game warmup. Fisty is first to grab the flag, though he doesn't hold it for long. With everyone keen to play, and the fact that the average ping was around 100, the sky around the fleeing rabbit is filled with chaingun fire. No-one holds the flag for more than 5 or 6 seconds and at the end of the map Ikon emerges victorious with the most flag carrier kills. Time for Death Birds Fly.

Death Birds Fly.
I'm not really nervous at this point. Weve practised/discussed our tactics for this map enough times so that everyone knows what their doing. Nonetheless, masty goes through the positions one more time to make sure everyone knows exactly what they have to do for the map. Everythings pretty quiet over roger wilco, with the typical "Can you guys hear me?" or "Your a fag" being the only things said at the moment. The only person I can identify is Rail, as he talks about daoc. Alot. Game countdown begins. I change my loadout to my default LD kit: Disc, ELF, chaingun and flares. I'm a rather nervous LD, so I tend to roam in a large radius around our base. A minute or so into the match I spot my first iM player. "Incomming Front! Incomming Front!" A couple of heavies plus a enemy tank cruise up towards us from the foothills at the front of our base. I move forward to try engage the heavies before they can fuck up our base defense to much. Sentinel hangs around our flag keeping an eye out for cappers. Game on. The match continues, with both teams getting sporadic flag grabs, though not getting to far. Then, bang. Venom with a fast grab and he's off over the hill at the back of our base. I chase, but I'm too far away to elf so I stick to just trying to chain him. And then..."FUCK! He's in a shrike! Someone kill him! Jax! JAX!" Theres nothing quite like the feeling of watching an enemy capper jet away from you at 320kph. I fire my chaingun, but at the speed he's moving I hit nothing but air. iM caps. The call goes out "Come one guys, lets focus." Internittent combat continues, then bloody gets a sweet grab, and makes it into a shrike. He's off. "COVER OUR FLAG CARRIER." I track Bloody's icon, when he's 550 meters from our base, I move forward to cover him. /X/ caps. The match ends with 1-1. Fucking overtime.

Overtime #1.
"Okay guys, same as normal. Offense, you guys need to communicate more."

Overtime #2.
"Okay, where wearing them down. Make sure you stick to the plan. We can take this out. LD, watch for cycle/shrike hand offs okay?"

Overtime #3.
"FFS. Lets try all tanks this time okay?. NO, listen to DOX okay? He's the offence captain. JUST DO AS YOUR TOLD. FUCK UP RETARD. Guys, chill out okay? This time."

Overtime #4.
"Fucks sake Offense? Where is the fucking communication? Spammers, call attack, cappers, call for escorts. Okay? Four fucking overtimes is fucking weak, so get your shit sorted. NO FISTY, YOU CANNOT BOMB."

Overtime #5.
"Lets just fucking do it. I assume the Offense isn't organised then?." Almost at the start of the map, shazza grabs after some clearing by Jax. And then he makes it into a shrike. "FUCKING COVER OUR FLAG CARRIER." Sentinel and rerun pund this out over and over. I wonder if they have a key bound to it or are just really fast typers. Shazza comes screaming back to our base, but he has no less than 3 iM shrikes hot on his little tail. They manage to take him down just as he reaches our tower, but then two of the iM shrikes collide and blowup midair killing the pilots. The last shrike pilot jumps clear to track shazza, who pops into our tower for a couple of seconds to rekit. Roger wilco is going absolutley insane. iM chasers rekit at their tower and manage to kill shazza. The flag is loose on the ground at our tower, as both teams fight to get it back. There are empty vehicles lying everywhere. Aaron grabs and gets into a tank. "GOGOGGOGOGGOGOGGOG" screams Jax. Aaron begins moving towards our base. Escorts polish off the last few iM lights. At our base, Aaron is floating in towards our flag to cap when an iM shrike comes out of nowhere and runs him down. Sentinel grabs, and then passes it to Krazhorse. Before Krazhorse can cap, iM make a grab. iM offense is swarming all over trying to kill kraz and return the flag. If i thought Roger Wilco was insane before, it's absolute chaos now. People aren't even talking in words anymore, just long drawn out screams and high pitched squeals. My heart is going at 160 beats per minute. Our flag is returned. Kraz goes to cap but iM get another motherfucking grab. Flag returned. "GO KRAZHORSE." /X/ caps. X players immediatley fill the screens with "Woohoo!" for about 3 minutes afterword. Reversion, here we come.

Reversion
I'm tired, and in a foul mood. iM want to reschedule the match as it's getting late over there. Rail wants to reschedule the match as he wants to play daoc. I look at the clock and it see it's 1am. I tell them were not rescheduleing. Moisty assigns positions. I feel a little better, I mean we've pracced this map up the fucking wazzo and back again. "Everyone knows that their doing right? Right? Lets go." Light D again. I jump up on the roof and wait. Game on. iM make a grab and head off to were another iM player is waiting with a cycle. "HE'S IN A CYCLE, SOMEONE FUCKING KILL HIM." First cap to iM. I start to get that sinking feeling. Game continues, and then, against all expectation our offense works together and bloody gets a grab. Aaron's waiting with a grav cycle (har har iM) and bloody makes it home to cap. 15 mintues to go and I. Want. Another. Fucking. Cap. No way this is going OT. 10 minutes. "Come on offense, work together." 5 minutes "What the hell are you guys doing? I'm not going into overtime okay?" 1 minute to go. Both teams are swearing. Map ends. Welcome to overtime ladies and gents. I imagine blitzy, sitting in his flat in sydney, tears rolling down his cherubic cheeks as he announces that to the three or four people still listening that the map is going into OT.

Overtime #6.
I miss what is said in the pregame argument as I take my headphone off, and lay down on my bed. I begin to massage my temples. Due to the lateness of the hour and the stress of the game I'm beggining to get a mean motherfucking headache. I feel a very real sense of horror at the thought of reversion going 5 OT's like DBF. Please Lord no. Game starts. Over Roger wilco, all extraneous talk is gone. People snarl orders at each other. iM begins to dump havocs full of heavies off at our base. During one of the attacks an iM capper gets away and makes it to to a grav cycle. When he's over 300 meters ahead of me and still accelerating, I stop chasing. I sit still and watch as the flag ikon draws ever near there base. "Someone fucking kill him please." iM caps to win reversion. Oh god no. Dessicator.

Dessicator
Okay so we have to win now. Masty gives out positions. We've pracced this map as well, but thats really starting to sound hollow by now. I glance at the clock. 2:30 am. Jesus christ. "Okay Offense you really have to fucking communicate this time. Make sure you call to the cappers to when the force fields are down okay?" Im LD @ the flag area for this map, but that should be relativley easy provided our defense at the FF gens can hold. I nervously hop from the top the hill, to the the top of the flag tower, to another hill, all the while keeping an eye on the FF. WOOOOSSHHH. I narrowly avoid being swept off the roof by a iM capper in a shrike. Their circling our base waiting for the FF to go down. Like wolves I think, or sharks. So far however our gen D is holding up. Theres nothing I can do about the shrikes however as I have to stay in light in order to chase. Hopefully Riskybob can fire off a couple of missles in between deploying. Then, from Sentinel: "Protect our flag!" I look up, and indeed yes the FF is down. Just as I jet up towards the flag an iM capper comes screaming in via shrike and grabs. I'm two steps behind and whip out the elf. I decide to use the flag area as a jumping off point for my chase. I land on the flag stand and bounce up again. However, just as I leave the ground the FF comes up again and I smack into it, stopping dead. "OH FUCK NO. NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO." iM caps to take the lead 1-0. At this point I begin to pray. And then, a miracle occures. Our offense begins to work together, like clockwork even. HO manages to consistently get the iM FF gens down. Cappers wait for the call. /X/ caps. Woohoo! Our FF gens are holding at the moment so everythings going sweetly. iM begins sending LO into our flag area so I get distracted by them. After killing one LO, I turn around and I'm surprised to see a capper with the iM flag pushing his way through the FF. What? I didn't even notice us grabbing. "Come on guys, we can cap this one out." 10 mins to go and we cap again to make it 3-1. The change over Roger Wilco is amazing. Theres laughter and rail is once agains disussing his daoc exploits. Everyones happy. 2 mins to go and we get sloppy. The FF gens go down for a second and iM makes a grab. I give chase, but I'm not too worried when I'm killed by an iM escort. iM cap but it's too late, too late. /X/ wins 3-2.

And that is my incredibly long match report. Hope some of you make it this far :). Good games iM. Long, stressfull, hard games, but good none the less
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:13 pm

"If i thought Roger Wilco was insane before, it's absolute chaos now. People aren't even talking in words anymore, just long drawn out screams and high pitched squeals."

Hahaha, fuckin' hell, IC :) Tribes was the greatest game ever.
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:27 pm

Funny you should post now cause I was just reading on snaggs...
Sunday, November 11 2001
21st lose to ZIO... and game over, for me
Submitted by Booster @ 12:57

Hi all. :)

Ok.... first up, 21st went down in a blaze of glory ( hehhe, okokokok, we went down bitching and screaming ) tonight against Korean team ZIO. The 21st played all 3 games on the ZIO server in Korea, and were consequently outpinged on all 3 maps played. Incredibly, Jaspa Tchoo actually MA'd himself at one stage, and recieved the special 21st Jiggliest BeerBelly Award. No excuses, however... in all honesty, Zone In Oriental deserved the win. They played very well, although not billiantly; in contrast, the 21st were kinda scrappy. I played a shocking game myself, but....ehhhh... I'm crap, so there ya go. :)

Scores?

Sanctuary: 2-1, 21st
Reversion: 4-1, ZIO
Death Birds Fly: 5-1, ZIO


Secondly....

Ok, well... that's it for me, I'm sorta dropping outta the Tribes scene. I don't think i'll be playing this game again.. well, mebbe, but I don't think so. A note to all other clan leaders, The 21st will be under new management from now on; I believe Xilence or Digital Jedi may be taking up the reins of leadership ( such that they are ), so any queries about matches and so forth should be directed to them. That still has to be confirmed, tho, but I'm sure they'll let everyone know what the story is. I wish the other 21st's all the best, been a real hoot fella's, ta. I have had SOOOOOOOOOOO many farkin' laughs playing alongside u guys... even after a crushing defeat, I've found myself roaring with laughter, completley bemused at all the stuff that's gone on in-game. I don't care if X or iM or whatever other outfit ends up at the top of TWL... fark 'em, u guys will ALWAYS be number 1; stay true to the ideal that the game is there to be ENJOYED, and you won't go wrong. Cheers. /me tips beer in salute.

To everyone else: it's been fun. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:57 pm

Those are 2 powerhouse lineups damn

6-8 top level players on each team and the rest are damn good too

Gg
No carries in base, that's one of the things that made pre-cowboy T2 so satisfying for so many, and probably the same reason it turned many others away.
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:04 pm

Who was the player /x/ by the way? Different alias?
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:50 pm

Wasn't that superhousebrick? Or perhaps sulls? Didn't he join /X/ at some point? idk...

And there are a bunch of old iM vs /X/ demos on Hobbz' site... Buffy / DOX / IC...
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:04 pm

Wasn't that superhousebrick? Or perhaps sulls? Didn't he join /X/ at some point? idk...

And there are a bunch of old iM vs /X/ demos on Hobbz' site... Buffy / DOX / IC...
sulls was iM I thought then moved to sh? EDIT: he's def ex iM as he's in some of buffy's demos. I do now remember him saying he had to go to bed and missed the final OT & the rest of the match.

I have Buffy's demos already converted
That OT4 demo is decent watching too as he's in OBS and gets different POVs

Hmmm... looks like I'm actually missing his OT5 demo.. and there was no OT3 demo, he must've sat that one out.
I've got ICs demo, will be getting that converted in the next few days.
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:26 pm

Oh I know he was in iM just wasn't sure thereafter...
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Post » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:48 pm


from that team list mojoman carried iM and bloody carried /x/
too many good players on both teams to say that!
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Post » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:25 pm


from that team list mojoman carried iM and bloody carried /x/
too many good players on both teams to say that!
That fag Reno-Raines wasn't one. He found T2 too complicated and couldn't adapt.
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Post » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:44 pm

There was a reason a lot of cowboys hated T2 base, and that was because they couldn't dominate as an individual
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Post » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:55 pm

I'm pretty sure I hated T2 Base because I had a P2 800 and dialup.
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Post » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:59 pm

base was good in the euro community because people actually worked together, even on pubs.
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