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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:21 pm

[Movie] Riddick (2013)

Very disappointing...

Story
(*cough* Pitch Black *cough*)
- lol? A rather nothing plot...
- Riddick "wakes up" after being betrayed and abandoned by the Necromongers (who he leads after killing their Lord Marshal)
- Lazy flashback sequence ensues where he realises he had gone soft
- Uses the baron conditions to get his edge back
- For no real reason other than he wants to...
- And that's the first 10 minutes... then completely abandons any Necromonger / Elemental arc entirely...
- Hits a beacon which attracts mercs to his location and they fight each other initially... until DUN DUN DUN scary monsters show up to ruin their day
- And that's about all for another hour and a half

Pros
- Action can be quite good at times
- Relationship with his pet was alright... but could see where it was going

Cons
- Dialogue is fucking TERRIBLE... just indescribably bad... jokes fall flat and dramatic moments carry no real weight as a result
(e.g. Dahl (lesbian) saying "I don't fuck men... well... maybe fuck them up" :|)
- Effects look really dated
- Actors seem to be on autopilot and don't even really care about the crap they are saying

2 KFC buckets out of 5
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:06 pm

Agreed. Was really amped up for this considering VD sank his own money into it. Was expecting something epic.. In reality it was really bland - not overly bad just neither here nor there.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:22 pm

Maybe they'll make a porn spinoff
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:50 pm

Some of the dialogue revolves around Riddick suggesting he "goes ballz deep" into Dahl as well.

So it's not that far off already.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:59 pm

Blargh! Seeing this tomorrow, wont read this post until after then.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:09 pm

I enjoyed it for what it was. I really was so similar to pitch black which was a bit sad but nevertheless it was ok. I think the next one will be a lot more akin to chronicles though, apparently it will be about him hunting down Vanko and trying to find Furya which could be very cool.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:31 pm

Haven't seen it yet and all things considered I probably won't until it comes out on dvd. I really think that out of all his movies Pitch Black was by far Vin Diesel's best movie, (which I loved). Everything else imo has been woefully cliche and shallow, i.e. poor acting, transparent characters, lousy non-gritty action.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:36 pm

How did you like Chronicles of Riddick (ie movie 2) out of interest KFC?
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:50 pm

How did you like Chronicles of Riddick (ie movie 2) out of interest KFC?
I thought it was worth watching more than once :)
Chronicles > Pitch Black - meh
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:20 pm

I thought it was worth watching more than once :)
Chronicles > Pitch Black - meh
You've got to be shitting me.

Pitch Black was an incredible sci-fi / horror deal, chronicles was some goofy magic fantasy shit.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:41 pm

Yeah. I guess i have a soft spot for fantasy. I did like Pitch black - Just preferred the more epic scale of Chronicles.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:51 pm

I feel like it tried too hard to be too "epic", Diesel's acting skills really couldn't hold up in that style of movie, most of the writing and dialogue felt like a bad fanfiction. Pitch Black worked as a small, simple, self-contained story.
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:18 pm

How did you like Chronicles of Riddick (ie movie 2) out of interest KFC?
As a movie I preferred the first, mainly because Chronicles suffered a bit from the "Aliens 3 lack of guns" problem.

But did like some of the lore it used. Which this one pretty much ignores... bizarrely...

Feels kind of like a reboot but... not...
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Post » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:01 pm

I feel like it tried too hard to be too "epic", Diesel's acting skills really couldn't hold up in that style of movie, most of the writing and dialogue felt like a bad fanfiction. Pitch Black worked as a small, simple, self-contained story.
Agreed. Pitch Black felt like a well constructed, not too ambitious film that knew its limits and did not try and over-reach them. This is why it worked so well. Conversely, Chronicles felt like an over-ambitious film that mimics to a lesser degree a lot of the over-hyped "Blockbuster" films of late such as the latest Fast and the Furious and Pacific Rim, (for example). Such films are long on technological wizardry and short on competent story telling.
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Post » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:00 pm

Just saw it - it wasnt terrible, but it was definitely pretty average.

The whole him awakening on a planet not knowing what happened deal was a bit lame as it was pretty much a cop-out way of not having to bring anything Necromonger back (which would mean a much bigger budget), where a nice deserty style planet can easily be made to look good in a patch of desert with a few CGI moons thrown in.

Thought the whole dog part was completely pointless IMO.

Also agree that the dialogue was terrible, almost as bad as the sterotypical/cliche merc crews. Thought it was amusing how fast John's went from cool calm collected leader under pressure, to yelling and cussing every two words.

Thing that got me though, was how bad the plot was in parts. Namely:
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All the song and dance associated with the locker - and moreso the effort/lengths gone to add some suspense to the opening of the locker. You really wanted to know if it was empty or not - so they go through that rigmarole, and sure enough, they're still there....but, they then leave it open - not just unlocked (why bother having that lock and all the elaborate key bs if you're just going to then not use it) - but then it's not just unlocked, the doors are open! It's not just a transitionary thing either, as the other merc team who own that door lock are back outside again hanging out - wtfirl! On top of that, the locker is UNDER A SKYLIGHT - an open skylight no less! Are they even trying anymore?!

Then when they discovered Riddick's taken the illuminated xboxes (i like how in your typical sci-fi, something cant be a power module unless it glows) - Johns is all, "The guy hunts in the dark! We'll take him out in the daylight! Lock n load!" then proceeds to go straight into a dark cave to find him, in what would be the perfect killing environment.
So yeah - it lost me there. Also the shower scene - desperate to get at least some tits in the movie - and the fact that if there's a female character in the movie, she has to be tough, therefore a lesbian, and there has to be copious lines about fucking her. Sorry, but was the script written by a 15 year old? Seriously, characters of this quality are just retarded.

Also like how s
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he missed shooting the dog with the sniper rifle too
- the first guy missing it was pretty funny, and his comments afterwards, but her missing it? Just wreaked of convenient.

The whole thing of the new creatures was just lame. Way to copy the first movie. Also the way they were suddenly (and again conveniently) super aggressive, illustrated how badass they were by making a token kill or two, then when they go outside and are shooting at them, they're like a migrating herd of diplodocus and just running by.

Could also see the limited budget in a few obvious places - particularly those hover bike things, there was a scene or two of them (i think the first one of them setting out) which was like someone sitting in a horse saddle in front of a green screen.

I did like the environment in the rain though i will say. As they were riding out again in the dark, and the badass lightning storm in the background - i did enjoy that. Also like KFC said, there were a few really meaty deaths which saved it a bit.

The thing is with Riddick as a char, he is a bit of a meat-head, but i reckon he can get away with meat-headish one liners and the low voice monologue. But fuck, the rest has to be ok. He can be a good character, but it has to be part of a decent plot, or it's just your typical dumbass sylvester stallone style brand of dumbass character.

Even the plot - two merc groups (or hell even more would be good) converging on an out of the way resupply station, could have been really interesting if the characters had more depth and there were more things going on than the obvious. Hah even the end-
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it was so damned obvious he would be rescued by John's ship - but the last scene, when theyr'e flying away and that other ship approaches - i thought it was the other merc leader and there was going to be a final bout of biffo! I had so little care/interest in that dudes character that i didnt even remember he'd died.
I liked Pitch Black, but i really liked Chronicles of Riddick. This was the weakest of the three by a big margin imo.
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:52 pm

Loved this movie. It really went for the late 80's / early 90's movie vibe, and it fucking nailed it. The slightly bad dialogue, stereotypes, tits and violence, I feel like these all added to the movie far more then they took away from it. Very unashamed of exactly what it's trying to be, and because of this it's very solid and very consistently entertaining. Diesel knew exactly what he was doing when he agreed to take a pay cut for this movie getting whatever rating it got, and he's a goddamn champ for it.
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