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Post » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:56 pm

Another day horrible situation.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1151203/terror ... war-school

PESHAWAR: Taliban militants have entered an army-run school on Warsak road, taking students and teachers hostage.

Five to six terrorists entered the Army Public School

130 killed, including at least 100 children; scores injured

Army chief en route to Peshawar

Operation enters seventh hour; 15 blasts reported

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The updates from reddit make for unpleasant reading:
Edit: 3 confirmed dead and 35 seriously injured. SSG commandos went inside through back door and are searching room to room. Few blasts as well reported.
Edit2: TTP said they'll be killing older students and keeping children.
Edit3: 4 dead so far. One female teacher also injured.
Edit4: Most kids held hostages inside an auditorium. It's quite big.
Edit5: 12 students dead/40 injured. As military helicopters flying over school, one soldier is dead so far. Hospitals do not have enough beds to keep up as more injured students are coming. On one bed, there are some 2 or 3 injured students. More beds coming from other hospitals. One bomber blew himself outside the door of auditorium where most students are being held.
Edit6: 15 students, 1 female teacher dead.
Edit7: Parents are reaching hospitals and schools. Their faces are engulfed with tears.
Edit8: One female teacher who tried to save student, was burned alive by terrorists.
Edit9: 21 killed so far. 17 students.
Edit10: Another female teacher dead. Over 100 injured, 35 seriously and over 21 dead. Students: "The terrorists were wearing military uniform, hard to tell if they were coming to help or kill. We lay down on floor. The gunmen came and killed us slowly, one by one."
Edit11: Many mothers are anxiously asking one person and another, looking for information about his child. Awful. The school is situated right next to big graveyard, which just plays on feelings.
Edit12: 23 dead. Some students in critical conditions as they were shot in dead. The ages are between 10-14 years old which have been confirmed dead.
Edit13: 33 dead so far. Military armored vehicles are seen entering school.
Edit14: 104 dead so far. Over 80 injured.
Edit15: Thanks mod for the updated title.
Edit16: Some children being rescued: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B493psxCIAI5T-D.jpg[3]
I just want to add, this is an army school. As mentioned in above edits, many children of high military officials attend here. The military had launched operation in north Waziristan, which is going on for few months now. It could be revenge attack. Many students saying the terrorists were speaking Arabic.
Edit17: The Prime Minister is going to the city himself to oversee operation. Many major political leaders are uniting and going to city to oversee. The Chief of Army is also going there.
Edit18: As death toll is rising, those who live in same area or know who may be living there, please ask them to consider donating blood. The terrorists are still there, so lets not lose anymore lives due to shortage of blood.
Edit19: "David Cameron: Taliban school shooting horrific." Just want to add another piece of history, it was today in 1971 that Bangaldesh was made out of Pakistan after a bloody war.
Edit20: TTP: 'We targeted school because army targets our families. We want them to feel our pain.' As mentioned in edit16, this indeed came out to be revenge attack. Officers' children attend this school.
Edit21: Mothers are seen talking looking in window of ambulances, on coffins, asking people and begging to know where her child may be. PM of Pakistan is in local city now.
Edit22: 3 terrorists dead/blown up, 3 alive.
Edit23: These students were doing their finals today. They prepared well for it. Told their parents "If I ace it, will I get X, will I get Y?" And now they're no more to receive X and Y and the days and nights spent at studying for exams to achieve what they wanted is gone.... We cannot bring back the dead, but we can love the alive. It is the holiday season, so love your child more than you wished being loved by your parent. Give them all the happiness they deserve. They're our future, our blood and the ones who will will carry our name forward.
Edit24: Three loud blasts reported.
Edit25: 126 students dead Some teachers and others dead as well. Over 120 injured. There will be 3 day mourning. Please note different media offering conflicting reports. The reddit link may not give you most updated news or even conflicting from which I add here. I'm adding information as soon different national sources offer updated news.
Edit26: SFW pictures: https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 55044A59[4] https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 54FD3359[5] https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 553F9EA2[6] https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/ ... bc07a791[7] http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/ ... 8376.jpg[8] http://defence.pk/attachments/10373991_ ... .176183/[9]
Edit27: @narendramodi It is a senseless act of unspeakable brutality that has claimed lives of the most innocent of human beings - young children in their school
Edit28: Another blast heard. It was reported earlier that one terrorist is still alive.
Edit29: Terrorists were using children as human shield.
Edit30: Again, if you know someone living there or live there, consider donating blood. News says that blood bags is running low.
Edit31: 4 out of 6 confirmed dead/blown up. 11 confirmed blasts.
Edit32: There were some 1200+ students at school. 3 clean shaved terrorists.
Edit33: Don't read if you're lighthearted. Children were saved as dead children piled up on alive one. So terrorists walked off. The saved ones said "terrorists will bring all children from different areas, huddle them in one room and then kill them."
Edit34: Operation is now into 5th hour.
Edit35: Children were writing exams in big room. The terrorists came in and killed. Being from the school, I can remember that it is not easy to escape. There is only one door. There are windows, but I don't think they can still escape. The building is two story high.
Edit36: The provincial government is offering 5,00,000 rupees, or $5000 USD to deceased's families. Injured will be offered 2,00,000, or $2000 USD. A child's life is not worth any money, not $5,000. No amount of money can ever erase the memory of her child from mother's heart.
Edit37: The Prime Minister of Pakistan has announced 3 days of national mourning.
Edit38: 5th terrorist is now dead.
Edit39: David Cameron: News coming out of Pakistan is heart shattering news
Edit40: How easy is it for terrorist to look as military man? http://tribune.com.pk/story/769406/in-d ... picion/[10]
Edit 41: Toilet break for me. Visit http://www.reddit.com/live/u304zn636rmd[11] as other users keep posting updates live.
Edit42: Over 200 injured. There is shortage of ambulances. People are using private cars to carry the bodies of children to home. Some parents are able to find only one body of child. So they look to see if they can find their second, or third child. Some are told one is alive, but other is dead. While some children from same family are being shifted to different hospital, so parents keep searching for kids. It's an awful situation to be in.
Edit43: Media is again saying blood is running low. As many people here have posted who live there, please let your friends know that the hospitals need more blood.
Edit44: Don't feed the trolls/flamers. I'm getting some nasty comments and I'm sure there are many below as well. Just ignore, report, downvote. If you enjoy talking to walls, then ignore my suggestion.
Edit45: The courts in Pakistan tomorrow will be on shut down to observe the mourning.
Edit46: Mothers describing their pain. English translation. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cnvq ... diframe[12]
Edit47: 6th terrorist dead (not completely confirmed)
Edit:48 Some students are being sent home after receiving medical attention.
Edit49: 130 dead/130 Injured It is 4:46PM local time.
Edit50: SSG commandos are blasting the walls of room to rescue students. Thus, it is not verifiable whether the blasts is done by terrorists or commandos.
Edit250: 132 dead from just one hospital.
Edit51: Media is saying there are 10 terrorists. 5 confirmed dead. 1 unconfirmed dead.
Edit52: The media is again pleading that blood amount if very low. There are 250 injured from just one hospital. Again, let your friends know, tweet, do all you're capable of to get/raise blood which hospitals are in desperate need.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:47 am

Crazy.

These sorts of things tend to happen once every few months it seems. No amount of 'public denouncing' makes an impact.

Its just full on, there is no line or area off limits for people.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:41 am

Terrorists! terror terror terror
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:59 am

Crazy.

These sorts of things tend to happen once every few months it seems. No amount of 'public denouncing' makes an impact.

Its just full on, there is no line or area off limits for people.
More like every few weeks/days

I'm pretty sure we wouldnt hear about most of them
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:00 am

Yea very sad.
everyday you can hear explosions in Pakistan. USA drones are the main cause.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:03 pm

Good post on Eli5 about it all, summarized what i imagine will be dribbling out of media prolapsed anuses over the next month(years):
The larger context right now is being ignored. Since June the Pakistani military has been conducting a military offensive in the Northwest Frontier Provinces. This area often called the FATA district is home to various Pakistani Taliban groups and tribal groups ( like the Mehsuds and Wazirs) with shifting allegiances. The Pakistani Taliban is influenced by A) Deobandi Islamism which is a South Asian variation of radical Islam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deobandi[1] B) and its dominant influence is the Pashtun tribal ethos of Pashtunwali: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunwali[2]

These two influences have shaped Taliban religious and political ideology. Now, 80 % of the Taliban are Pashtuns, while Pakistan is divided into various ethnic and regional groups ( like Sindhs, Punjabis)..The Pashtuns are also in Afghanistan as the Durrand Line ( the border between Pakistan/Afghanistan) cuts between their ethnic " homeland". They don't identify with the state of Pakistan. Now, since the operation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Zarb-e-Azb[3] was launche, ( the breakdown of the ceasefire with the Taliban with PM Nawaz Sharif's gov't, and the Jinnah int'l airport attack in June),

The Taliban consider the use of attacks on children and schools as a means of exacting revenge which is a major important thing in Pashtun culture. They see the deaths of their tribesmen as something that justifies these barbaric attacks. They have been scattered now into various cities in Pakistan as well, which makes it more dangerous.

The Pakistani Taliban are at war with the government in Islamabad. I would also like to add that the Taliban attacked an ARMY school, which means these kids were children of soldiers who were fighting in the NWFP or/and the school represented the Army. The tribes the Taliban protect there lost many children to the Pakistani military. This is cold blooded revenge for the Taliban at the same time sending a message to the Pakistani military to stay out of " their" territory.

I am also going to add a Wiki link to the areas where the Pashtun people predominate. If you notice its in the area of the border region: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_pe ... _Map.svg[4]

http://yalepress.yale.edu/book.asp?isbn=9780300178845[5]

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/m ... n-review[6]
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:55 pm

Welp, this is proof that the government isn't doing shit to monitor potential threats within the australian population.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:02 pm

wut
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:34 pm

Re: Another day horrible situation.

O.o_o.O
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:45 pm

Welp, this is proof that the government isn't doing shit to monitor potential threats within the australian population.
You are buying what they are selling bro - and you dont even know it.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:06 pm

Re: Another day horrible situation.

Welp, this is proof that the government isn't doing shit to monitor potential threats within the australian population.
...?
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:12 pm

What part are you confused about?
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:22 pm

You take your time to figure it out now...
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:46 pm

Welp, this is proof that the government isn't doing shit to monitor potential threats within the australian population.
dumb fuck
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:07 pm

Welp, this is proof that the government isn't doing **** to monitor potential threats within the australian population.
dumb f**k
this
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:37 pm

Welp, this is proof that the government isn't doing **** to monitor potential threats within the australian population.
dumb f**k
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I have to agree with these gentlemen here. Don't make us point it out to you, it just makes things worse.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:13 pm

Can't say I agree that it's a failing specifically of the government. It's easier to identify these people in hindsight - even though he had a ton of offences, he's just one of many many many who would have a string even longer and likely worse and are even now walking around our cities, around our towns etc.

Look at all the cases of the various rapes that happened in Melbourne last year- particularly with the case of Jill Meagher etc - that guy was a previous offender, several times from memory - went on to rape and murder her. Why was he out?

Problem IMO is that we cant keep people in jail forever - largely due to capacity, and i guess a large part due to rehabilitation attempts. The fact is they end up on the streets regardless. The government should be watching potential threats to society, i am sure they already do - but they're humans - humans tend to vary in the quality of their attentiveness.
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Post » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:10 pm

:roll:

DJ pulling a Tobias and posting in the wrong thread...
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Post » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:21 am

I have to agree with these gentlemen here. Don't make us point it out to you, it just makes things worse.
I make no pretense at not being an ignorant lazy asshole, and I would fucking LOVE to take some steps to being less of that, but I don't learn shit from bittards acting like a bunch of holier then thou dickheads.

If you think someone else is ignorant or wrong, you're supposed to try and teach them and have some kind of back and fourth discussion where you learn to understand the other person's point of view, not be a steaming thundercunt about it.
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Post » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:49 am

I have to agree with these gentlemen here. Don't make us point it out to you, it just makes things worse.
I make no pretense at not being an ignorant lazy asshole, and I would fucking LOVE to take some steps to being less of that, but I don't learn shit from bittards acting like a bunch of holier then thou dickheads.

If you think someone else is ignorant or wrong, you're supposed to try and teach them and have some kind of back and fourth discussion where you learn to understand the other person's point of view, not be a steaming thundercunt about it.
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